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Post by chaoticpsylocke on Jan 7, 2015 17:50:29 GMT
i cant believe with an impending album release how quiet all of this is...
no news ever. about performances, tours, possible new singles, photo shoots, interviews... there is nothing. is Fefe even doing any of that??? i just cant get over this lack of information this go round. i mean, its been hard being a Fefe fan since day one, but this era is an embarrassment. where is the promotion? what is going on? someone say something, please!
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Post by Jonny-boy on Jan 18, 2015 17:22:36 GMT
I check the boards every few weeks or so. But I do it with no expectations.
The little success Fefe had with Joy was astounding considering it didn't get the full push that mainstream artists get, so I guess they were expecting Legacy to do just as well and when it didn't, the label seems to have given up. I feel like Firebird has become Sunday Love 2.0. Continuously pushed back, a couple of failed singles, and then it'll be shelved and Fefe all of a sudden won't have a label.
I feel like the handful of fans she did have gave up 'cause the lack of promotion sucks so bad.
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Post by chaoticpsylocke on Jan 30, 2015 23:34:13 GMT
all of that is true. but i feel like part of it was her own career suicide. the insanely long break following up Joy was just too much. she just dropped off the face of the earth, did two movies no one has heard of and then took another break. finally starts putting out singles but she doesnt update her facebook, twitter, or anything to keep connected to the fans. its self promotion!
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Post by feferocks09 on Feb 1, 2015 18:08:24 GMT
her career has reached its rock bottom right now but a lot of it has to do with the promotion i agree. But i think that she gave up too. Ever since she got into a relationship i feel like she just doesnt really give a sh*t to be honest. She will post about just here and him and nothing about music anymore. I believe firebird was to be the next followup single from in better hands but nothing happend anymore.
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Post by Jonny-boy on Feb 1, 2015 18:10:19 GMT
Too true. Self promotion would've greatly helped the singles, but unfortunately, there's only so much one can do. As a songwriter, I can vouch for her though, because when you're out of material and can't come up with anything you enjoy, you need to take a break. I'm sure when she signed onto those films, she was under the notion that they'd either keep her in the public eye or enhance her celebrity. As for the singles, I gave them another listen lately and while promotion is the primary reason to blame for them failing, I understand why they didn't even make a standing on the charts. Legacy is grating, Celebrate was an Olympic Games song(which all but ensures failure), and though In Better Hands is a nice pop song, it sounds dated to 10 years ago. Joy was groundbreaking in that she was staying with current trends while having an edge and still putting together solid songs that hold up 2 years later when you've already head them 1,000 times. The new stuff is almost embarrassing. I can almost understand why her label won't promote them. She's done digging the hole, now she's just sleeping in it. I almost don't even care to hear Firebird because the songs we've gotten have been so thoroughly mediocre. Shelving the album and waiting for another burst of creativity might be better anyway. She's almost certainly never going to have the amount of mainstream success she deserved with Joy.
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Post by chaoticpsylocke on Feb 3, 2015 5:56:05 GMT
exactly. just a little self promotion... rally the troops! but, its too late for that... i guess. or at least the attempt is still not being made. Legacy, is kind of grating. i didnt like it at first, i really had to get past the screamy shrill sound to her voice. i adore the song now of course, but I think In Better Hands might have been a better lead single. celebrate grew on me, and Charge is so epic sounding. just like Firebird seems to be live. i really hope to hear this music someday bc the way she described the majority of the album as big, arena rock is such an underused sound now. it sounds so good on her... but it is definitely not what is on the radio.  |
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Post by Jonny-boy on Feb 3, 2015 23:38:18 GMT
They may as well just dump it out on iTunes with no notice like Sunday Love. then maybe she can get to work on the next album. I mean it's been 5 years since Joy. We know the album is finished, they're just holding back cause they know it's not going to do well.
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Post by chaoticpsylocke on Feb 4, 2015 7:29:18 GMT
right??? on to the next one. at least get what money they can get out of it by putting it up...
im still shocked Sunday Love was so randomly put on itunes. i guess thats what we are gonna have to hope for this time too
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Post by Jonny-boy on Feb 4, 2015 22:33:23 GMT
Speaking of Sunday Love, I checked ebay just for the hell of it yesterday and someone has the balls to sell what they're calling an "On Demand" version of the CD which is basically the album with a bunch of misplaced bonus tracks from movie-soundtracks and b-sides like Pepperspray. And there's no booklet, it's a 1 page insert with the album cover and track listing.
I was like "you've gotta be kidding, this is the most bootleggy-looking piece of garbage ever."
But yeah, if they dropped the album onto itunes fairly quickly now, they might be able to turn some sort of profit or at least cover production costs, but the longer they wait, the smaller and slower the sales will be.
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Post by kissedfool on Mar 1, 2015 22:29:40 GMT
The whole reason why albums are shelved and go unreleased is because labels don't actually have to pay anyone who worked on the album (producers, engineers, mixers) until it actually gets released. Studio time costs are like chump change in the grand scheme of things. I'm assuming, the way the label sees it, after the underperformance of the singles so far, the revenue from sales of the album probably won't cover what it will cost to pay everyone.
It was basically the same situation with Sunday Love. I also think there's some sort of contractual obligation which explains why it was just tossed on iTunes years later. I've noticed that happens often with shelved albums. Like Dream's second album. And I believe there was a Blaque album that got the same treatment.
But yeah, I check this forum whenever I'm randomly reminded of Fefe and I'm on my laptop, maybe every few months or so. I wish she'd get it together but she'll probably have a baby soon here. And babies end careers.
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Post by jaq422 on Mar 3, 2015 20:35:18 GMT
i check the boards all the time just in case haha but i never post
tbh ever since joy i haven't enjoyed fefe's music. i like her writing but with legacy, charge, and in better hands i thought the production seemed cheap and her voice was shrilly and annoying.
i still listen to "in your touch" and other tracks off joy allllll the time. super powerful songs i thought.
and of course sunday love is f*cking genius, and her debut is really fun.
i think she would have been better off staying away from the mainstream- it's totally ruined the music she's allowed to put out i feel like.
THAT BEING SAID: fefe will always be my all time fave. i absolutely adore her.
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Post by Jonny-boy on Mar 7, 2015 20:12:00 GMT
The whole reason why albums are shelved and go unreleased is because labels don't actually have to pay anyone who worked on the album (producers, engineers, mixers) until it actually gets released. Studio time costs are like chump change in the grand scheme of things. I'm assuming, the way the label sees it, after the underperformance of the singles so far, the revenue from sales of the album probably won't cover what it will cost to pay everyone. It was basically the same situation with Sunday Love. I also think there's some sort of contractual obligation which explains why it was just tossed on iTunes years later. I've noticed that happens often with shelved albums. Like Dream's second album. And I believe there was a Blaque album that got the same treatment. But yeah, I check this forum whenever I'm randomly reminded of Fefe and I'm on my laptop, maybe every few months or so. I wish she'd get it together but she'll probably have a baby soon here. And babies end careers. They do have to pay most of those things though. I believe Tori Amos covered in her book, but as far as I remember, they pay for the upfront things such as studio time, the people who come in and work on the album, etc. And when an album is released, everyone on the album gets a certain amount on the dollar(see Lisa Lopes for a full description). Let's say the album cost $10. Fefe wrote 10 songs on the album and she gets 5 cents a song, so she would get 50 cents per album. The same would go to all of the other writers, etc. if it's in their contract that they're paid for what the album makes. After everyone who actually works on the album gets their part, the label would also get a certain amount per album. Releasing the album would be the only way to make any money off of it. The only way they would be losing money is if they spent, let's say half a million on promotion and the label's percentage from sales didn't cover that half a million. Artists who get albums casually tossed onto iTunes is a result of the label trying to make money without having to spend money. Digital copies of the album cost almost nothing to make whereas producing physical copies would cost the label. I mean, really, someone at the label could just convert the songs to m4a and any idiot can photoshop some promotional photo the label already owns the rights to into an album cover. |
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